A Conversation About Epistemology
Q: If I understand the MBT model correctly, the perception of color is a feature at least of the NPMR level, since we can project colors while in NPMR. We can project other things as well. How can we perceive colors from just being information?
Tom: Consciousness is an information system that exchanges and interprets data into “perceived” information. The interpretation is based upon previous experience – we interpret new in terms of the old. When past experience fails to be able to interpret new data succinctly, we come up with our best shot (pattern match) or if we are more experienced with unknown uninterpretable data, we may be aware of the interpretation issue and perceive the data as indeterminate, often giving it nonspecific content with emotional coloration, i.e. we perceive a nonspecific feeling (which may be strong or weak) about it – whatever it is. However, even the feeling is likely to be attached to past experience (which always contains expectations, ego, needs, wants, beliefs and fears among other things). The more we fear uncertainty, the more we force an interpretation upon the uninterpretable. If We are sufficiently aware, we can collect experience from many reality frames upon which we base our interpretations but the experience we use for interpreting must be available to our analytical function (for the most part that means: available to our intellect). If we reside in PMR and are primarily aware in PMR, then we must interpret everything in terms of PMR experiences in order to form coherent thoughts and communicable metaphors and symbols.
Q: In other words, in your theory I couldn't find an explanation on how some basic sensory system (at NPMR level or higher) works or it is formed. Are colors something, only explained by the pure root level of Consciousness? I think, feelings, like love, touch, etc., can be explained in a similar way as colors, since they both have in common that are derived from information itself.
Tom: The brain produces nothing – every interpretation that is produced is produced by consciousness from the experience of consciousness. The brain is virtual, and because it evolved in the PMR simulation according to the rule set, it represents a constraint of the rule set upon the virtual reality game – as does the rest of the body – that is its only function -- the body and brain of any individual defines the possible and potential interactions an individual can have with its surroundings (all other). Damage it and potential/possible interactions within PMR decrease.
There is no NPMR sensor system or PMR sensor system other than metaphorically. Our PMR body based senses and our brain represent rule set constraints for the PMR experience. The only active ingredient (the only thing that is receiving and interpreting data) is consciousness. Thus each of us lives in our own unique reality that has some similar elements shared with others because it is a multiplayer game focused around learning through interaction. We are taught to define and differentiate colors in PMR when as infants we are consistently given the same different words to go with the same different experiences. Those words (metaphors and symbols) become part of our FWAU’s experience and awareness here in PMR. We apply those same learned metaphors when trying to pattern-match new data (from any reality frame) to the present working experience database of which we are aware (these pattern matches enables us to form meaningful thoughts within the context of our experience). Without that context we cannot form what we would consider a coherent meaningful thought -i.e., we cannot interpret the data into information we can meaningfully process to some result.
Q: In your experiences, were you able to experience senses beyond colors (new colors?) or other pure ways of sensing (not derived) different from what is already written by other experiencers?
Tom: The larger ones experience database, the larger ones decision space, and the larger ones reality. We each live within a reality that can be no larger than what we have learned and grown to support.
Q: Thank you for the fast response, Tom. I appreciate your response and it will take me several reviews. I have no clue from there though of how the Consciousness hardware works and how it develops the perception of a color from experiences. I can put AI Guy through millions of video input, but how would AI Guy perceive yellow?
Tom: However it is defined for him – or however he and another define it together. Somebody sends him some data and tells him that the experience of this data is described by the word “yellow”. After that he knows what yellow is. The word “yellow” becomes a symbol for his experience. Eventually AI guy and his companions define enough words and experiences in common that they can now communicate – they have created language. Language starts very rudimentary and then slowly builds by consensus toward a richness of metaphors and symbols associated with various common shades of experience. In PMR Color is defined in terms of both a word associated with an experience and again much later in terms of rule-set causality (the electromagnetic frequency causing that particular experience in this simulation). Color is not necessarily a component of every reality frame – but it is a component of our PMR, so its definition in terms of intellectual, emotional, and metaphorical associations become a part of our experience base. When we get some data from some reality frame (whether it is a component of that reality or not) that triggers one or more of those associations, we see yellow – because that is how we interpret the data, no matter what was intended.
Q: Am I wrong by saying that the yellow I perceive is part of my hardware, not just bits? I know, the frequency of the color yellow is data but my perception seems to have "something else" which I don't know if it is defined by our original hardware or is just new develop software.
Tom: There is no hardware… only data and experience of data – from these and interactions with others we consensually develop associations (language) that lead us to interpret data.
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