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== I am leaving this in for reference although the pages referenced have been deleted. ==  [[User:Ted Vollers|Ted Vollers]] 15:33, 24 February 2015 (CST)
  
 
Regarding the community portal I would think that it should using the category tree that I install we can decide how we want to categorize the content and then attach the appropriate categories to each page. From there we can insert a category tree that will help in navigation. These category trees are hierarchical in nature and can either be hierarchical fragments or can extend all the way up to a parent node. When inserting a category tree it can start anywhere in the tree, so we can get creative with this.  
 
Regarding the community portal I would think that it should using the category tree that I install we can decide how we want to categorize the content and then attach the appropriate categories to each page. From there we can insert a category tree that will help in navigation. These category trees are hierarchical in nature and can either be hierarchical fragments or can extend all the way up to a parent node. When inserting a category tree it can start anywhere in the tree, so we can get creative with this.  
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I created a category tree example for you to see on the wiki. This will give you a visual of what I am talking about. I think that everything should eventually filter up to "Home" category, but it it doesn't have to be this way. It could be that we have some trees that are not attached to "Home" (fragments I mentioned above).
 
I created a category tree example for you to see on the wiki. This will give you a visual of what I am talking about. I think that everything should eventually filter up to "Home" category, but it it doesn't have to be this way. It could be that we have some trees that are not attached to "Home" (fragments I mentioned above).
  
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I think by looking at how I am doing this, it may be the best way to learn. --[[User:David Mathis|David Mathis]] 11:42, 2 June 2011 (CDT)
 
I think by looking at how I am doing this, it may be the best way to learn. --[[User:David Mathis|David Mathis]] 11:42, 2 June 2011 (CDT)
 
:I like the way this works, although it was a little confusing for a couple minutes. --[[User:Michael Saganski|Michael Saganski]] 13:33, 2 June 2011 (CDT)
 
:I like the way this works, although it was a little confusing for a couple minutes. --[[User:Michael Saganski|Michael Saganski]] 13:33, 2 June 2011 (CDT)
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This page seems to be getting a lot of random spam from anonymous users with different IP addresses. They are probably scripted bots that roam the internet looking for MediaWiki sites that allow anonymous posting for easy spamming. Is there something we can do about this? One fix would be to require registration for posting on discussion pages, but this would require changes to the current philosophy and approach of this Wiki.--[[User:Michael Saganski|Michael Saganski]] 15:55, 17 July 2011 (CDT)
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I have this page on watch but there are things here that I don't remember seeing.  Specifically your mention of spammers or spam bots, Mike.  The thing to do is do a '''rollback''' and then go to the previous version and do a '''block''' on the identifying IP address.  Or the reverse order if you prefer.  I see no reason why we have to give a warning or second chance.  If we have to we can eventually require registration or possibly one of those graphical discriminators to allow posting to catch bots.  --[[User:Ted Vollers|Ted Vollers]] 07:22, 18 July 2011 (CDT)
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Mike you are correct, the ability to post on talk page without registration is by design and we would like to keep it this way.
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Regarding the spam, I will get the site all fixed up throughout the coming week(s).  I intentionally did not place any spam filters on the wiki so that I could see with my own eyes what would happen (more of a curiosity while the wiki is still new . It's clear to me that spam prevention is needed as it can be very annoying and cause a distraction. I plan to do several things that I feel will greatly reduce and perhaps eliminate most spam. --[[User:David Mathis|David Mathis]] 07:43, 18 July 2011 (CDT)
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Good to know, thanks. Yeah I've been rolling back their changes. A graphical discriminator (i.e. type the word you see in the image) is a pretty good method that I forgot about.--[[User:Michael Saganski|Michael Saganski]] 10:27, 20 July 2011 (CDT)
  
== Xrumer Rocks ! If You Work With an Xrumer Service ==
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Increasing your SEO organic rankings is simple with Xrumer. If you desire to rank higher in the search engines and do well with SEO, then you need to get significant backlinks. Getting a lot of backlinks is easy if you are using Xrumer or use an Xrumer service.      
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Ignore last spam, installing a spam filter. Was me. I create another page that nobody is watching for testing purposes. --[[User:David Mathis|David Mathis]] 10:49, 22 July 2011 (CDT)
     
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Xrumer is a program that will post in forums and also submit blog comments. It has many wonderful benefits and can go around difficulties such as account creation, client diagnosis, and captchas. This makes it an extremely convenient program to make use of. You can also retain an <a href=http://xrumerservice.org>xrumer service</a> where somebody will run the hyperlink building software for you. Using an Xrumer Service truly can make getting great SEO results easy. Xrumer can be extremely costly to own since it costs $500, but it important you have a dedicated hosting server as well. This usually costs about $150 monthly. A far cheaper option is to just use an Xrumer service.       
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If you are going to use an Xrumer service you want to check you're getting good quality work. Make sure you are acquiring verified posts so that you can verify that your SEO attempts are working. Whoever does the Xrumer service for you should confirm every post that is live in a discussion board and send you a report. If they will not provide you with this, then you should get somebody else for your Xrumer needs. You also want to ensure that there aren't any broken links. If the forum doesn't not allow HTML or certain kinds of anchor-text, then you'll have numerous broken links. This certainly does nothing for your SEO rankings, and it is just a total waste of time.       
 
     
 
Xrumer can post a high amount of links, but many people who offer an Xrumer service don't give you any firm guarantees. If you find someone who will guarantee their work with Xrumer for a reasonable price, then you should definitely make the most of that Xrumer service. This way you will know you are receiving the links that you pay for.       
 
     
 
There are many suppliers who offer a Xrumer service who offer a couple of hundred thousand forum posts or blog comments. Do not be deceived concerning this though since most of these will not even be live. The rate of success for this type of Xrumer blast is normally around 4%. Then out of those many of them are not even live on the internet. If you want to find a trustworthy Xrumer service, make sure they guarantee the quantity of posts you will have, and be sure you can verify it.       
 
     
 
When using Xrumer the right way you can observe big increases in your search engine rankings. Of course there will be additional factors that help with this including on page SEO and other back linking methods. If however you are serious about getting high rankings in the SERP's, you will want to consider using an Xrumer service.
 
  
== Xrumer Is Awesome If You Use Xrumer Service ==
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When you create edits to pages as you did earlier, please make note of them and possibly of reasons on the discussion page so we can keep track of who did what and why.  Then insert a time stamp to close the record.  You made a good beginning here.  As you see, I have extensively modified your general expansions, which were a good idea.  Keep in mind to set titles as bold, italic for books and as appropriate for other titles.  You might compare these changes with yours on the history page.--[[User:Ted Vollers|Ted Vollers]] 03:56, 11 February 2012 (CST)
  
xrumer makes posting in forums or posting blog comments an automatic process. It has many wonderful benefits and can bypass difficulties including account generation, client diagnosis, and captchas. This makes it an incredibly handy program to use. You can also employ an <a href=http://xrumerservice.org>xrumer</a> in which somebody will manage the hyperlink building software program for you. If you want to get incredible SEO results, then you need to utilize an Xrumer Service. Xrumer can be very costly to run as it costs $500, but it important you have a dedicated hosting server as well. This can usually cost $150-$200 per month. Using an Xrumer service is a less expensive route to take.          
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Inserted comments on newly written material appearing in the Wiki, written by Tom Campbell or Ted Vollers.--[[User:Ted Vollers|Ted Vollers]] 16:53, 11 March 2012 (CDT)
         
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If you're going to make use of an Xrumer service you want to check you're getting good quality work. You would like to be able to verify your backlinks, so make sure you get a written report. The Xrumer service you utilize should be able to provide you with this. If you discover an Xrumer service, that is not prepared to make this happen then you should find someone else to operate Xrumer for you. Also, be sure that there aren't any broken links.   Many of these forums do not allow HTML or anchor-text, and this could cause links that do not work. This does nothing for your SEO rankings, and it is just a total waste of time.         
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The Wiki is back up after a hiatus, now hosted on Tom's server. I am now back at work, at least beginning to be. I have just added a reference to Shamanism, Indra's Net and the Buddha's Illusion to the first paragraph about the purpose of this Wiki.[[User:Ted Vollers|Ted Vollers]] 12:47, 21 February 2015 (CST)
         
 
Xrumer can post a high amount of links, but many people who offer an Xrumer service don't give you any firm guarantees. If you locate someone who will guarantee their work with Xrumer for a fair price, then you should really make the most of that Xrumer service. You'll then know that you are getting backlinks you deserve.         
 
         
 
There are many companies who provide a Xrumer service who offer a couple of hundred thousand forum posts or blog comments. This is great, but the the fact is most of these won't even get accepted. Usually the rate of success for one of the blasts is only four percent. Even out of those many of the links will not be live. If you would like to find a trustworthy Xrumer service, make sure they guarantee the quantity of posts you will have, and be sure you can verify it.         
 
         
 
When utilizing Xrumer the right way you can see big increases in your search engine rankings. However, this will not be enough alone in many instances. You will need to combine other backlinking strategies and on page SEO as well. If however you are serious regarding getting high rankings in the SERP's, you'll need to consider utilizing an Xrumer service.
 

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Main Page Discussion Page --Ted Vollers 16:19, 25 May 2011 (CDT)

Once we have some more content pages completed (I see Ted has already done quite a few), how will we let visitors know about them? I think some sort of "Table of Contents" or other type of launch pad into the content on this main page should be created. This is common on most wikis as well. Many people new to MBT might not know what to search for due to some of the unique terminology. Some recommended starting pages listed on the main page might be useful for them. --Michael Saganski 22:42, 30 May 2011 (CDT)

Displaying the contents for access.[edit]

Mike,

I have done some looking around and compared to WikiPedia. It looks like the Community Portal page is where you normally set this up. This is where those categories(?) that David set up an add on for recently come in and the tree function(?) that he also added. There are ways to do this. We just don't know them yet and I have been doing other things so far. I figured once we had some content, I would start to worry about this. I have also had some problems to deal with on the board. Ted Vollers 00:32, 31 May 2011 (CDT)

For sure Ted, I just wanted to identify the need - there is no rush yet. --Michael Saganski 08:59, 31 May 2011 (CDT)

== I am leaving this in for reference although the pages referenced have been deleted. == Ted Vollers 15:33, 24 February 2015 (CST)

Regarding the community portal I would think that it should using the category tree that I install we can decide how we want to categorize the content and then attach the appropriate categories to each page. From there we can insert a category tree that will help in navigation. These category trees are hierarchical in nature and can either be hierarchical fragments or can extend all the way up to a parent node. When inserting a category tree it can start anywhere in the tree, so we can get creative with this.

On the community portal page we can perhaps highlight the main pages and then perhaps use the main pages to branch off into finer details with category trees. And example of a category tree is the following

I created a category tree example for you to see on the wiki. This will give you a visual of what I am talking about. I think that everything should eventually filter up to "Home" category, but it it doesn't have to be this way. It could be that we have some trees that are not attached to "Home" (fragments I mentioned above).

http://wiki.my-big-toe.com/Category:Universe

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no pages or subcategories


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Galaxy
no pages or subcategories


I inserted a tree on the Universe Category page with <categorytree mode=pages>Universe</categorytree> (Universe can be replaces with any node in the tree)

You can click on the + sign beside Galaxy and expand out into the sub categories / pages that I created for this example. You will see a combination of subcategories and then pages branching off from the categories that they fall under,

The tag above can be use to start at any branch in the tree for any tree that exists on the site and can be placed on any page. Notice that when you are actually on one of the subcategory pages you can see where you are at the bottom of the page and click the link to navigate back up the tree until eventually you reach the top root / parent node (In this case Universe).

I think by looking at how I am doing this, it may be the best way to learn. --David Mathis 11:42, 2 June 2011 (CDT)

I like the way this works, although it was a little confusing for a couple minutes. --Michael Saganski 13:33, 2 June 2011 (CDT)

This page seems to be getting a lot of random spam from anonymous users with different IP addresses. They are probably scripted bots that roam the internet looking for MediaWiki sites that allow anonymous posting for easy spamming. Is there something we can do about this? One fix would be to require registration for posting on discussion pages, but this would require changes to the current philosophy and approach of this Wiki.--Michael Saganski 15:55, 17 July 2011 (CDT)


I have this page on watch but there are things here that I don't remember seeing. Specifically your mention of spammers or spam bots, Mike. The thing to do is do a rollback and then go to the previous version and do a block on the identifying IP address. Or the reverse order if you prefer. I see no reason why we have to give a warning or second chance. If we have to we can eventually require registration or possibly one of those graphical discriminators to allow posting to catch bots. --Ted Vollers 07:22, 18 July 2011 (CDT)


Mike you are correct, the ability to post on talk page without registration is by design and we would like to keep it this way.

Regarding the spam, I will get the site all fixed up throughout the coming week(s). I intentionally did not place any spam filters on the wiki so that I could see with my own eyes what would happen (more of a curiosity while the wiki is still new . It's clear to me that spam prevention is needed as it can be very annoying and cause a distraction. I plan to do several things that I feel will greatly reduce and perhaps eliminate most spam. --David Mathis 07:43, 18 July 2011 (CDT)


Good to know, thanks. Yeah I've been rolling back their changes. A graphical discriminator (i.e. type the word you see in the image) is a pretty good method that I forgot about.--Michael Saganski 10:27, 20 July 2011 (CDT)


Ignore last spam, installing a spam filter. Was me. I create another page that nobody is watching for testing purposes. --David Mathis 10:49, 22 July 2011 (CDT)


Dom,

When you create edits to pages as you did earlier, please make note of them and possibly of reasons on the discussion page so we can keep track of who did what and why. Then insert a time stamp to close the record. You made a good beginning here. As you see, I have extensively modified your general expansions, which were a good idea. Keep in mind to set titles as bold, italic for books and as appropriate for other titles. You might compare these changes with yours on the history page.--Ted Vollers 03:56, 11 February 2012 (CST)

Inserted comments on newly written material appearing in the Wiki, written by Tom Campbell or Ted Vollers.--Ted Vollers 16:53, 11 March 2012 (CDT)


The Wiki is back up after a hiatus, now hosted on Tom's server. I am now back at work, at least beginning to be. I have just added a reference to Shamanism, Indra's Net and the Buddha's Illusion to the first paragraph about the purpose of this Wiki.Ted Vollers 12:47, 21 February 2015 (CST)