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David, I assume that you have seen the various comments in e-mails to the effect that we do want this to be a secure Wiki rather than actually editable by any chance passerby.  So it seems that the first things we need to do are to set up the log in procedure, even though this will add inconvenience for us.  Then we need to establish a hierarchy of users with a limited number at the top able to let others move up the scale to do appropriate work.
 
David, I assume that you have seen the various comments in e-mails to the effect that we do want this to be a secure Wiki rather than actually editable by any chance passerby.  So it seems that the first things we need to do are to set up the log in procedure, even though this will add inconvenience for us.  Then we need to establish a hierarchy of users with a limited number at the top able to let others move up the scale to do appropriate work.
 
I suggest the following as being known and meaningful terminology instead of the more foreign Wiki standard terminology:
 
I suggest the following as being known and meaningful terminology instead of the more foreign Wiki standard terminology:
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Hi Ted,
 
Hi Ted,
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Hi Ted,
 
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I read extensively regarding Wikipedia Vandalism on Wikipedia.  I was not sure exactly why you suggested this.  Our situation will differ substantially from that of Wikipedia.
 
I read extensively regarding Wikipedia Vandalism on Wikipedia.  I was not sure exactly why you suggested this.  Our situation will differ substantially from that of Wikipedia.
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''Yes, I realized this.  I won't worry about this for now.  I won't worry about this now and perhaps later I will start daily backups to my machine.  That way we can back up to any point we want to.  Have to use all that space for something.''
 
''Yes, I realized this.  I won't worry about this for now.  I won't worry about this now and perhaps later I will start daily backups to my machine.  That way we can back up to any point we want to.  Have to use all that space for something.''
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David,
 
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--[[User:David Mathis|David Mathis]] 12:20, 22 May 2011 (EDT)I am not sure about this extension. When I add the flags etc and attempt to test it, it causes the entire wiki to go blank with a white screen. If you see this, know that I am working on trying to see if it's broken / buggy or what...
 
--[[User:David Mathis|David Mathis]] 12:20, 22 May 2011 (EDT)I am not sure about this extension. When I add the flags etc and attempt to test it, it causes the entire wiki to go blank with a white screen. If you see this, know that I am working on trying to see if it's broken / buggy or what...
  
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--[[User:David Mathis|David Mathis]] 12:52, 22 May 2011 (EDT)I think this works for now, but for clarity sake, I think you might be right about the name being entered along with the IP. I just need time to figure that part out. I will work on it, but the ETA is unknown at this point. I think we should move forward while I work on it as it shouldn't be a show stopper right?
 
--[[User:David Mathis|David Mathis]] 12:52, 22 May 2011 (EDT)I think this works for now, but for clarity sake, I think you might be right about the name being entered along with the IP. I just need time to figure that part out. I will work on it, but the ETA is unknown at this point. I think we should move forward while I work on it as it shouldn't be a show stopper right?
 
   
 
   
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I talked to Justin yesterday about the possibility of providing some custom artwork for the wiki to help as a visual aid for some of the more challenging concepts in the MBT. Additionally I asked that he provide a few mockups for main top left wiki image. I let him know that I would run this idea by you all before agreeing upon anything. He said he would be happy to do this for us.
 
I talked to Justin yesterday about the possibility of providing some custom artwork for the wiki to help as a visual aid for some of the more challenging concepts in the MBT. Additionally I asked that he provide a few mockups for main top left wiki image. I let him know that I would run this idea by you all before agreeing upon anything. He said he would be happy to do this for us.
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I was thinking about some verbiage that might be good to add somewhere on the site for contributors. We will likely want the contributors to read up on wiki formatting and usage so that we can make a best attempt at keeping things well formatted and organized. Would be a bad idea IMO to not over-emphasize the important of this, if the goal here is to provide a consistent experience for visitors that keeps them coming back and confident in our data.  
 
I was thinking about some verbiage that might be good to add somewhere on the site for contributors. We will likely want the contributors to read up on wiki formatting and usage so that we can make a best attempt at keeping things well formatted and organized. Would be a bad idea IMO to not over-emphasize the important of this, if the goal here is to provide a consistent experience for visitors that keeps them coming back and confident in our data.  
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As Shawn pointed out, do we want to have a minimum word count for the biography? I found where it's controlled in the confirm account extension.
 
As Shawn pointed out, do we want to have a minimum word count for the biography? I found where it's controlled in the confirm account extension.
  
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Hey Ted, see my email about color scheme. As for the biography, it is more of a personal pet peeve to have the requirement, but at the same time, I can understand the value, especially if you are having to confirm members, etc.
 
Hey Ted, see my email about color scheme. As for the biography, it is more of a personal pet peeve to have the requirement, but at the same time, I can understand the value, especially if you are having to confirm members, etc.
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--[[User:David Mathis|David Mathis]] 22:07, 22 May 2011 (EDT)I think a planning page is good rather than taking a free for all approach :). I wanted to reach out to Edge, however I was not sure if I have permission to be pulling others in yet. I was under the impression that we were keeping this on the down low until we are sure that all securities are in place. I just don't know you guys good enough (other than you're a great bunch) to know who should be part of this initial stage so I will leave that part up to you.
 
--[[User:David Mathis|David Mathis]] 22:07, 22 May 2011 (EDT)I think a planning page is good rather than taking a free for all approach :). I wanted to reach out to Edge, however I was not sure if I have permission to be pulling others in yet. I was under the impression that we were keeping this on the down low until we are sure that all securities are in place. I just don't know you guys good enough (other than you're a great bunch) to know who should be part of this initial stage so I will leave that part up to you.
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--[[User:David Mathis|David Mathis]] 12:32, 23 May 2011 (CDT) Looks like it's working then
 
--[[User:David Mathis|David Mathis]] 12:32, 23 May 2011 (CDT) Looks like it's working then
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--[[User:David Mathis|David Mathis]] 12:32, 23 May 2011 (CDT) Per the rules of CSS, an element may or may not have a property assigned to it that you are looking for. You may have to traverse up the document structure to find the property you are looking for. I think I have an idea of what is wanted, at least enough to get started. I will work on this over the next few days as time permits. I got roped into some complex headache issues at work today.
 
--[[User:David Mathis|David Mathis]] 12:32, 23 May 2011 (CDT) Per the rules of CSS, an element may or may not have a property assigned to it that you are looking for. You may have to traverse up the document structure to find the property you are looking for. I think I have an idea of what is wanted, at least enough to get started. I will work on this over the next few days as time permits. I got roped into some complex headache issues at work today.
  
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First extension page of Wiki preparatory work.
 
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Well, obviously that didn't work.  So much for applying logic!
 
Well, obviously that didn't work.  So much for applying logic!
  
 
--[[User:David Mathis|David Mathis]] 12:42, 23 May 2011 (CDT) testing ff
 
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Hi Ted,
 
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Hey, hold off judgement until it's out of the construction zone phase :).
 
Hey, hold off judgement until it's out of the construction zone phase :).
  
 
Currently it may look like hell and then beautiful the next second. I am having to reverse engineer this beast so I will be playing with colors and fonts for a few days. You may want to switch back to the default while I work or you might yourself getting nervous or raising questions that will automatically be answered when you see the finished product.  
 
Currently it may look like hell and then beautiful the next second. I am having to reverse engineer this beast so I will be playing with colors and fonts for a few days. You may want to switch back to the default while I work or you might yourself getting nervous or raising questions that will automatically be answered when you see the finished product.  
  
Regarding the main image, I just had a fantastic idea wile showering which I think might be possible, the idea is still blurry and is coming from somewhere else so I need to meditate to get the full message. I never intended for that image to be permanent. ;)
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I am still thinking about the top left main image and I did play with making that area larger for a couple of minutes, but it will take a deeper dive to figure our out. I will attempt to do what you are asking, which I think might be possible. I can make the side portlets or side menu the darker color tonight.
 
 
I can make the side portlets or side menu the darker color tonight.
 
  
 
As for the font's I just started working on them and they will match the BB which is font-family: "Lucida Grande",Verdana,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;.... I think the BB is falling back to Verdana for most because "Lucida Grande" may not be a default font for most OSs. You should now be seeing Verdana on the BB and the Wiki. I am still messing with the font sizes colors etc so the fonts are going to be changing around drastically till I find the golden zone.
 
As for the font's I just started working on them and they will match the BB which is font-family: "Lucida Grande",Verdana,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;.... I think the BB is falling back to Verdana for most because "Lucida Grande" may not be a default font for most OSs. You should now be seeing Verdana on the BB and the Wiki. I am still messing with the font sizes colors etc so the fonts are going to be changing around drastically till I find the golden zone.
  
 
I am about to drive out of town and will not be back until about 7 PM CDT. AT the time I will resume work on the template. :) Don't worry, it will all come together beautifully.
 
I am about to drive out of town and will not be back until about 7 PM CDT. AT the time I will resume work on the template. :) Don't worry, it will all come together beautifully.
 
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I have created the pages for Privacy Policy, About My Big TOE Wiki and Disclaimers links at the bottom of each page.  There is an error in the Disclaimers.  I tried to enter Tom's e-mail as author@my-big-toe.com and I can't find out how to properly enter it so that it comes up as a clickable link.  I have searched in the manual and find nothing but stuff about registration confirmation by e-mail and similar.  Do you know how to do this?  You might want to check them to see if you see other problems, but make this lower priority as I have asked Tom to especially check these.
 
 
I have also created some of the pages as listed on the actual Main Page.  See the main page for notations indicating this and review them as you have time.
 
 
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Those pages look great. I just got home from Waco TX a bit later than I anticipated. As far as e-mail links are concerned I think you should just use standard markup (minus the link tag) like:
 
 
<pre>mailto:your@email.address</pre>
 
 
I will look and see if there is a more elegant way of doing this.
 
 
I will do some header work tomorrow as time permits. I have a really good idea if I can make it a reality. if not I can just try to adjust the header  so that an image like we currently have can be made bigger.
 
 
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I went ahead and pushed the side menus down and made the top left image bigger. It doesn't automatically move down BTW. I had to make some semi-minor changes to some of the CSS to get the desired result. I am still thinking about the header but figured that I shouldn't keep people waiting while I think about it.
 
 
I also started looking at link colors. There seem to be quite a few different colors in different places. When you have a chance, let me know what you think about the changes I made which was to get the blue links up top to match the blue in the forum index and then I made the blue links on the side match the red links on the forum. Additionally, look over the site and let me know what other link color changes you might want.
 
 
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I think this site is about ready to go.
 
 
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Thank you for your patience with my lacks in coding and coming up to speed in this work.  Not to mention thanks on my own and Tom's behalf for all that you have contributed to this project in total.
 
 
What you did to the logo is excellent.  Your new idea will have to be very good in order to top it.
 
 
I will try to add the last few pages and new Main Page quickly and open the doors to everyone.
 
 
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My Pleasure Ted and Tom,
 
 
I have been looking for an opportunity to give something back to this community that has given so much to me and others. It has been a blast working on this project, even if I have only had lunch breaks and after the kids go to bed to work on it. Now comes the real challenge of converting Tom's book and all related material into an encyclopedia.
 
 
I am in the process of reading through this discussion again for things that are still on my to do list and then I am making sweeps through the site to ensure we have not missed anything (I am sure we will find plenty along the way). It will always be a WIP.
 
 
Anyway, off to work, let me know if you need anything. The default skin is now mybigtoe (global to all)...
 
 
 
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